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IETF-108 mboned minutes

Session 2020-07-31 1410-1550: Room 5 - Audio stream - mboned chatroom

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          IETF 108
          MBONED Agenda
          Fri, July 31, 2020
          14:10-15:50 UTC
          Online, Room 5
          
          
          Jabber Log: https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/mboned/2020-07-31.html
          Video log: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ygyFbP2xRo0
          
          Note taker: Greg Shepherd, Lenny Giuliano
          
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          Notes take in etherpad at https://codimd.ietf.org/s/notes-ietf-108-mboned#
          
          Text (from 8/5/20) pasted below for reference:
          
          IETF 108
          MBONED Agenda
          Fri, July 31, 2020
          14:10-15:50 UTC
          Online, Room 5
          Status of WG items
          
          Chairs, 10 min
          
          Lenny: any progress on mcast-problems?
          Warren: a few more weeks probably.
          Lenny: dc-deploy got a couple reviews, valuable draft with good stuff
          but needs some editorial improvements. Greg is doing a review now.
          Lenny: any updates on yang models?
          Sandy: just updated the yang model in March, but there’s still some
          improvements needed. Will ask for yang doctors review after the next
          version.
          
          BIER update- Greg
          -tunnel encap discussions
          -in lab trials, operation issues to come soon
          Multicast to the Browser: draft-ietf-mboned-ambi, draft-ietf-mboned-cbacc,
          draft-ietf-mboned-dorms
          
          Jake Holland, 30 min
          
          -updates, feedback, next steps
          -intent to prototype in Chromium posted
          -internal POC successful
          -native receive, not using ambition/cbacc yet
          -dorms server up and running
          -community outreach- ~30 ISP meetings with arch review
          -sw/gaming emerging as key use cases
          -Feedback- supportive, though biased sample
          -challenges with global s,g
          -access devices limited on state
          -want only internal, non-global sources- business-driven, non-technical
          constraint
          -Lenny: if they allow global sources, why do they want the source address
          to be local?
          -Nils- with MPLS-based BGP free core, trouble with PIM over MPLS
          -Lenny- GTM (RFC7716) is designed to solve this problem
          -Jake- proposed solution GNATS to translate
          -Lenny- perhaps M-NAT more appropriate name
          -also, perhaps BGP Based Multicast (draft-ietf-bess-bgp-multicast)
          could include translated address?
          -hope to trial with 3-6 operators
          -cbacc prototype planned
          -Lenny- feedback from browser folks that MTTB drafts good enough to get
          in the browser?
          -Jake- indirectly, yes. Auth scheme well received so far
          -Lenny- can we request review to make sure we are on right track? Worried
          about doing all this work and finding out it’s not good enough
          -Warren- there is a W3C liaison
          -not sure if we need to formally request
          -Jake- maybe later
          
          



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